Posted by
Dave in Vegas on Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:17:08 AM
When the police do stupid things I will criticize them.
For example, I think it is a dumb policy to disarm a CCW holder during a
traffic stop as a matter of policy. I have discussed this previously so I won’t
get into my objections again. Having been employed as a police officer I
believe that I am at least somewhat qualified to comment on this issue.
On the other hand, when the police do something correctly
I feel compelled to mention that as well.
It is 2 am Wednesday and I have just
returned home from a short drive during which I was stopped by a police officer
with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.
I currently live in an apartment and I am planning to move
when my lease is up at the end of this month. Being unable to sleep I decided
to go out for a drive around a nearby neighborhood on the far west side of town
to see if I could spot any houses with “for rent” signs in the yard.
So, I’m driving around and I end up on a dead end street.
As I started to turn around I observed a car approaching from behind but I didn’t
have time or room to maneuver before the car got too close to me so I decide to
wait until it is clear. I am a bit concerned however, because I am in a
secluded spot and I wonder what this car is doing here coming up behind me so
fast. As the car gets right up behind me, red and blue lights come on in my
mirror.
Well, I know why this police officer lights me up at 1:30 in the morning so I put the car
in park, reach for my wallet and place my hands on the steering wheel and wait
for the officer to approach me.
The officer, who looked to be in his mid 30’s stepped up
behind me and I say “Good morning,” and he asks what I am doing driving around
this area. I explain to him that I am looking for houses for rent and advise
him that I am armed.
The officer asked where my gun is and I tell him that I
have two guns, one on my hip and one in a chest holster under my shirt. He asks
if I have a CCW and I said: “You bet.”
At this point I removed my driver’s license and CCW from
my wallet and asked if he wanted the registration cards as well. The officer
responded that he does not want the registration cards but advised me not to
reach for my guns. I told that I would be happy to comply with that. The
officer asked if the car is registered in my name, I responded in the
affirmative and he then returned to his vehicle.
I was wearing my seat belt, which restricted my access to
the guns. I should note that I usually carry a third gun, my “car gun” that I
place on the seat next to me but this morning I made a conscious decision not
to take that gun with me.
Two or three minutes later the officer returned and gave
my license and permit back to me and advised me that he stopped me because I
appeared to be suspicious and because kids tend to like to party in the area. I
told him that I understand that and thank him.
The officer told me that I could turn my car around after
he moved his vehicle away from mine. He told me to have a nice morning and
left.
The officer was polite and acted, in my opinion, in a
completely professional manner.
The reason that I am writing this account is because I was
surprised that I was not asked to exit my vehicle and disarmed. I recently spoke to another police officer
and inquired about LVMPD’s policy of disarming people during traffic stops. The
officer told me that this was in fact their policy.
During this conversation, I advised the officer that I was
armed and the officer only inquired where the gun was and he wanted to see it.
He was satisfied with that. He didn’t even ask to see my permit.
I have had a couple of other conversations with police
officers that I initiated. During these conversations, I mentioned that I was
armed and the officers were only curious about that fact that I carry full-size
Colt pistols. They have quizzed me about my reasons for carrying more than one
firearm or why I carry large guns rather than smaller guns, but they did not
seem to be concerned that I was armed.
During one such conversation, an officer asked if I always
carry a gun. When I responded that I carry three guns. The officer’s response
was: “Good man.”
I also have a friend who is a police officer who knows
that I carry concealed. Even when we first met he didn’t ask to see my permit.
This encounter this morning is the first time that I was
required to produce my carry permit except when I go to a gun show at county
owned property.
I suppose that while it is the official policy of the Las
Vegas Metropolitan Police Department to disarm people during traffic stops or
other encounters with armed people, it appears that at least a few police
officers don’t follow that policy.
From my point of view, it isn’t necessary to disarm a
person if the officer has any common sense or perhaps I should say, a well
developed police officer’s sixth sense. In all the cases in which I have
encountered police officers I remained calm, relaxed and polite, I didn’t make
any furtive movements, and I was willing to follow their instructions such as
“Don’t reach for the guns.” This seems reasonable to me and it seems reasonable
that the officers don’t disarm me if I don’t appear to be a threat to them.
I was once told that one’s chances of surviving an
encounter with Las Vegas cops was only 50/50. Maybe that estimate
should be revised.